Top Secret/Exclusively Eyes Only
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Jobert: Are you reaching the end?
Kissinger: Yes, we finish tomorrow. We are sending Sullivan to Saigon. And we plan to come back the 5th of June, and another day or two we come to an agreement. But we have substantial agreement now. This is just between you and me. On most thing we can get a modus vivendi, except Cambodia.
Jobert: The other day we talked about Cambodia. Your friend Chou had two things -- I forgot to tell you. It was Chou who wanted you to know.
Kissinger: When I saw Chou, I frankly had the impression he was distancing himself from Sihanouk. But since then he has gone back--partly because of the weakness of the Phnom Penh side and because he has no other card.
Jobert: He told me to tell the United States that Sihanouk was interesting personality. He insisted on this to our Ambassador.
Kissinger: He spoke to the head of our Liaison Office in a similar sense. The dilemma is what I told you the other day. Will the return of Sihanouk make a Communist victory more rather than less likely?
Jobert: I think your analysis of the other day was good.
Kissinger: If the Chinese take Sihanouk and if Sihanouk can control the Hanoi forces, and if Sihanouk is not simply used as a means for the non-Communists to be destroyed, that is a circumstance in which he might be usefull. But if he is used to destroy the non-Communists, then Sihanouk has no interest for us.
Jobert: If Sihanouk returns with a good will, it could end up with the solution you described.
Kissinger: That is right. There is a distinct possibility.
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